WEBVTT 0 00:00:09.949 --> 00:00:10.140 1 00:00:21.590 --> 00:00:22.760 Tactfully. 2 00:00:23.180 --> 00:00:25.520 That's the nothing personal word of the day. Good morning. 3 00:00:25.530 --> 00:00:31.399 It is Wednesday, September 13th 2023. Welcome to nothing personal 4 00:00:31.540 --> 00:00:32.569 Tactfully. 5 00:00:32.860 --> 00:00:35.400 That's what everyone is trying to be right now 6 00:00:35.500 --> 00:00:40.169 though. There are enough memes and tiktok videos of the Aaron Rodgers injury 7 00:00:40.409 --> 00:00:44.630 and of Aaron Rodgers season highlights as a member of the New York Jets 8 00:00:44.819 --> 00:00:47.939 of Aaron Rodgers career as a New York Jet 9 00:00:48.209 --> 00:00:51.540 that not many people are practicing the art of tact, 10 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:55.529 but Robert Sala, the coach of the Jets is doing his best. 11 00:00:56.840 --> 00:00:59.040 They showed his face after Rogers tore 12 00:00:59.169 --> 00:00:59.830 his achilles 13 00:01:00.209 --> 00:01:01.669 and they knew on the sideline 14 00:01:02.700 --> 00:01:05.980 immediately forget waiting till yesterday when it was announced that he 15 00:01:05.989 --> 00:01:09.610 officially tore his achilles when you're talking to your trainers. 16 00:01:09.790 --> 00:01:10.510 You know, 17 00:01:11.209 --> 00:01:13.699 it's not one of those things with Tommy John. 18 00:01:13.709 --> 00:01:18.529 Oh, I'm not sure if it's the ligament is snapped. We have to go look at the MRI 19 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:19.459 when you have an achilles, 20 00:01:20.260 --> 00:01:22.500 you can feel it rolled up. 21 00:01:23.660 --> 00:01:24.800 That's a problem. 22 00:01:25.410 --> 00:01:28.389 But you don't want to announce it. You wanna wait, you wanna confirm, 23 00:01:28.739 --> 00:01:31.870 I've been in those rooms, I've made those decisions. I totally agree 24 00:01:32.519 --> 00:01:36.250 once it was confirmed that Aaron Rodgers was done for the season 25 00:01:36.839 --> 00:01:37.860 publicly. 26 00:01:38.250 --> 00:01:39.970 They knew that they had to 27 00:01:40.580 --> 00:01:41.669 somehow 28 00:01:41.949 --> 00:01:46.169 rally the troops because it was game one of the season 29 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:49.830 and they happened to win a game against Buffalo. 30 00:01:50.739 --> 00:01:53.569 So they could have had the GM, they could have the owner, 31 00:01:53.699 --> 00:01:54.949 they went with the coach 32 00:01:55.589 --> 00:01:57.160 and they said we think that 33 00:01:57.800 --> 00:02:00.529 should be the one to talk because 34 00:02:00.809 --> 00:02:02.589 we used to have our manager do a lot of the 35 00:02:02.599 --> 00:02:05.010 talking because they're in front of the media all the time. 36 00:02:05.099 --> 00:02:07.019 It's more commonplace. 37 00:02:07.319 --> 00:02:10.500 It's not as though something has happened out of the ordinary. 38 00:02:10.508 --> 00:02:13.899 It's just an update when we had an injury for a player. 39 00:02:14.460 --> 00:02:17.139 Sometimes we'd have the manager give the news 40 00:02:17.270 --> 00:02:19.380 other times we would have 41 00:02:19.710 --> 00:02:24.440 the general manager give the news and once in a while I would speak on the subject, 42 00:02:24.449 --> 00:02:26.669 it depended on the player and the scope of injury 43 00:02:27.220 --> 00:02:29.679 and injury to Aaron Rodgers 44 00:02:29.850 --> 00:02:36.460 is not your standard run of the mill, quadricep, bruise, deep thigh bruise. 45 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:38.669 This is the guy 46 00:02:39.169 --> 00:02:41.410 who you have built your entire 47 00:02:41.600 --> 00:02:43.210 franchise around 48 00:02:44.169 --> 00:02:46.229 who is debuting for you 49 00:02:46.600 --> 00:02:50.500 in a season while you're over unders 9.5. You expect to go to the Super Bowl. 50 00:02:51.369 --> 00:02:56.440 You've got expectations by your fans, by your players, by your front office, 51 00:02:56.449 --> 00:02:57.179 through the roof, 52 00:02:57.190 --> 00:03:01.360 by the NFL through the roof as manifested through their national games, 53 00:03:02.809 --> 00:03:06.929 four snaps into game one. He's out for the year 54 00:03:07.289 --> 00:03:13.580 and we're gonna say this is like our backup middle Leinberger beat Leinberger 48 69. 55 00:03:14.350 --> 00:03:18.619 This is like our backup middle linebacker being out for 6 to 8 weeks. 56 00:03:18.630 --> 00:03:20.610 Go ahead coach Sala 57 00:03:20.800 --> 00:03:22.559 and tell the people what's happening. 58 00:03:23.369 --> 00:03:24.699 G MA B 59 00:03:25.929 --> 00:03:26.990 this is 60 00:03:27.389 --> 00:03:31.580 a situation that requires a different level of media attention. 61 00:03:32.619 --> 00:03:35.669 So let's think about what they had the coach say and 62 00:03:35.679 --> 00:03:38.589 then wonder to ourselves why they had him say it. 63 00:03:39.779 --> 00:03:44.190 I don't know why people are trying to put an obituary or under our team name. 64 00:03:45.119 --> 00:03:45.850 Good one. 65 00:03:46.509 --> 00:03:49.059 You wanna let the players know and you want to let the fans know, 66 00:03:49.070 --> 00:03:52.080 you wanna let the sponsors know this season's not over. 67 00:03:52.089 --> 00:03:54.320 We're not dead yet. No problem. 68 00:03:56.270 --> 00:03:59.220 I want to make it clear. Zach's our quarterback 69 00:04:00.029 --> 00:04:01.070 fine. 70 00:04:01.220 --> 00:04:03.149 That's for the GM to say not the coach. 71 00:04:04.059 --> 00:04:08.250 The reason I want the GM to say that when you've got a player who you must replace, 72 00:04:08.259 --> 00:04:09.449 who gets injured 73 00:04:09.679 --> 00:04:12.509 and you don't want to replace that player internally. 74 00:04:12.520 --> 00:04:15.669 You have to say you're gonna replace the player internally so you 75 00:04:15.679 --> 00:04:18.570 can then start to have trade talks or free agent talks, 76 00:04:19.329 --> 00:04:21.160 but it's fine. They had the coach say it, 77 00:04:22.019 --> 00:04:23.350 Zach's our quarterback 78 00:04:24.790 --> 00:04:27.779 but then he said this is Zach's team 79 00:04:28.190 --> 00:04:30.119 and we're rolling with Zach. 80 00:04:32.429 --> 00:04:35.500 This is the same quarterback that got benched twice last year 81 00:04:36.540 --> 00:04:37.070 where 82 00:04:37.380 --> 00:04:40.540 Sala had said, yeah, we're not sure he's gonna play again. Oh, yeah. 83 00:04:40.549 --> 00:04:43.040 Now we're gonna have him play again because I think they had 84 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:45.089 another guy, maybe Mike White, 85 00:04:45.470 --> 00:04:49.029 the former University school in Plantation Florida. 86 00:04:49.529 --> 00:04:54.709 I think he was the another quarterback for the Jets. So they had white benched, then 87 00:04:54.880 --> 00:04:57.989 he got hurt and so Wilson had to come back. 88 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:00.149 Remember all that back and forth that happened last year 89 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:03.890 then going into this year, 90 00:05:05.059 --> 00:05:10.410 do you remember the whole Aaron Rodgers signing saga where we had to wait forever 91 00:05:10.420 --> 00:05:15.130 for Rodgers to actually be traded by the Packers and it was a game of, 92 00:05:15.140 --> 00:05:15.750 hey, 93 00:05:16.309 --> 00:05:18.149 we know he's gonna be traded. 94 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:19.989 Aaron Rodgers took all leverage away from 95 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:21.769 Green Bay and eventually the trade happened. 96 00:05:22.359 --> 00:05:24.170 This is Aaron's team. 97 00:05:25.589 --> 00:05:30.209 It doesn't go from Aaron's team to Zach's team because Aaron gets injured 98 00:05:30.589 --> 00:05:34.750 the way you say that to your players and publicly is 99 00:05:34.859 --> 00:05:36.049 injuries happen. 100 00:05:36.359 --> 00:05:40.500 We are extremely disappointed to lose Aaron Rodgers for the season. 101 00:05:40.730 --> 00:05:43.920 We are supremely confident in the team we've put together 102 00:05:44.619 --> 00:05:47.489 and in the depth that we have that we will be able 103 00:05:47.500 --> 00:05:51.190 to continue to compete to play in Las Vegas in February. 104 00:05:52.839 --> 00:05:55.089 I'm not handing over the team to the defense. 105 00:05:55.100 --> 00:05:57.369 I'm not handing over the team to Zach Wilson. 106 00:05:57.380 --> 00:05:59.290 I'm not handing over the team to anybody. 107 00:05:59.299 --> 00:06:02.290 I'm handing over the entire team to the entire team 108 00:06:03.380 --> 00:06:08.750 because Saint its Zach's team and then they go into Dallas and lose 36 to 10. 109 00:06:11.269 --> 00:06:12.359 Zach Wilson 110 00:06:13.119 --> 00:06:14.369 is Zach Wilson, 111 00:06:15.510 --> 00:06:17.399 you realize that you gotta do better. 112 00:06:18.470 --> 00:06:22.640 So I don't like saying things where then three weeks later we have to then 113 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:28.040 say again that what we said wasn't exactly right or worse yet. 114 00:06:28.049 --> 00:06:29.519 Ignore what we said before. 115 00:06:29.529 --> 00:06:33.109 Say something new now and then leave it to people in the media to say, wow, 116 00:06:33.119 --> 00:06:34.459 these people are inconsistent. 117 00:06:35.250 --> 00:06:38.700 We really wanted to be careful. Always with platitudes. 118 00:06:39.089 --> 00:06:41.420 That's why I like to say, never say never. 119 00:06:42.489 --> 00:06:46.750 Is there a chance you'll trade your best player? Well, never say never. 120 00:06:46.859 --> 00:06:49.720 Some people are more likely to be traded than others. 121 00:06:50.500 --> 00:06:54.489 Always put things and couch things in a way that 122 00:06:54.730 --> 00:06:56.450 you leave yourself open 123 00:06:56.649 --> 00:06:58.989 to anything that could possibly happen. 124 00:07:01.019 --> 00:07:02.130 So the next thing 125 00:07:02.450 --> 00:07:04.190 that we are waiting to hear about 126 00:07:04.890 --> 00:07:05.910 is actually 127 00:07:06.200 --> 00:07:07.700 the future of Aaron Rodgers, 128 00:07:09.329 --> 00:07:11.480 the way the Jets did their deal with Aaron Rodgers. 129 00:07:11.489 --> 00:07:15.380 What got the most attention is he gave up all that money to bring in all of his friends, 130 00:07:16.049 --> 00:07:18.209 all the former Packers to be on the Dodgers. 131 00:07:18.220 --> 00:07:22.339 He wrote a check for like he James hardened it. He gave up $30 million. 132 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:26.209 Well, what they're not saying is that he's owed 133 00:07:26.600 --> 00:07:28.850 about $80 million 134 00:07:29.640 --> 00:07:30.970 but in that neighborhood 135 00:07:31.880 --> 00:07:34.750 and people are wondering, is he gonna try to make a comeback? 136 00:07:35.679 --> 00:07:39.709 Here's a little nugget that is contained in professional contracts. 137 00:07:40.320 --> 00:07:43.950 A player must keep himself in first class physical shape. 138 00:07:43.959 --> 00:07:45.410 That's contractual provision 139 00:07:45.760 --> 00:07:47.910 when a player is hurt and under contract, 140 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:52.250 a player must get himself back into first class physical shape. 141 00:07:52.260 --> 00:07:56.049 There's some caveats if you have a degenerative disease, if you've got a, 142 00:07:56.170 --> 00:07:57.970 a non plane injury, 143 00:07:58.559 --> 00:07:59.480 but a torn achilles, 144 00:08:00.649 --> 00:08:01.940 you've got to rehab it 145 00:08:02.140 --> 00:08:04.809 and you've got to get yourself back and ready to play. 146 00:08:04.910 --> 00:08:06.700 If he chooses to retire, 147 00:08:07.399 --> 00:08:10.260 they negotiate some sort of end to Aaron 148 00:08:10.269 --> 00:08:13.890 Rodgers long illustrious tenure in New York. 149 00:08:14.649 --> 00:08:18.480 But if he wants to collect what is owed him under his current contract 150 00:08:18.720 --> 00:08:21.660 and the Jets are in a position where there's a ton of dead cap space. 151 00:08:21.670 --> 00:08:26.130 If they get rid of him, there's a huge salary cap hit on him two years from now. 152 00:08:27.690 --> 00:08:31.019 Let there not be a question what Aaron Rodgers is doing now, 153 00:08:31.029 --> 00:08:34.969 he may go into a darkness tree because when we have a player who gets hurt like this, 154 00:08:35.099 --> 00:08:36.349 we're gonna let him be. 155 00:08:36.760 --> 00:08:39.840 The rehab doesn't necessarily start in earnest. 156 00:08:40.460 --> 00:08:44.429 We check on him, we get him on his feet and we make sure they're doing certain things, 157 00:08:44.789 --> 00:08:46.830 but we also give the player a minute, 158 00:08:47.059 --> 00:08:48.109 take a minute 159 00:08:48.340 --> 00:08:52.929 and wallow in the self pity and disappointment of what took place. 160 00:08:53.590 --> 00:08:57.789 So if he wants to go dark, if he wants to do some smoking, whatever he wants to do fine. 161 00:08:57.820 --> 00:09:01.359 But trust me, he's going to rehab this injury. 162 00:09:02.950 --> 00:09:03.859 But Sala 163 00:09:04.400 --> 00:09:07.840 had to speak about Rogers because Rogers wasn't speaking. 164 00:09:08.880 --> 00:09:11.349 Some of you think that Aaron Rodgers doesn't need to speak. 165 00:09:11.630 --> 00:09:14.530 I agree. Players don't have to give an interview. 166 00:09:14.640 --> 00:09:15.989 He doesn't have to tweet 167 00:09:16.369 --> 00:09:16.909 but boy, 168 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:18.570 we're all waiting for the first words he 169 00:09:18.580 --> 00:09:20.650 says because they're gonna be pretty telling. 170 00:09:21.719 --> 00:09:22.159 So what 171 00:09:22.390 --> 00:09:23.250 said is 172 00:09:23.559 --> 00:09:27.409 when asked whether or not he is going to return? 173 00:09:28.320 --> 00:09:32.179 He said I didn't get into the future of what he's expecting or what he's thinking. 174 00:09:32.200 --> 00:09:36.599 I think that's a conversation tactfully left for another day. 175 00:09:38.469 --> 00:09:40.239 I take slight umbrage with that. 176 00:09:41.369 --> 00:09:44.780 I like that you use of the word tactfully. It's our word of the day today. 177 00:09:45.590 --> 00:09:49.239 And I agree there are situations where you don't want to address as an example. 178 00:09:49.250 --> 00:09:50.640 When people are on bereavement, 179 00:09:51.789 --> 00:09:55.409 you don't want to address when they're gonna come back or what the result 180 00:09:55.419 --> 00:09:58.400 will be or who's replacing the player or what's going on with the team. 181 00:09:58.409 --> 00:10:00.520 You tactfully take a minute 182 00:10:00.909 --> 00:10:02.179 and then you move on, 183 00:10:02.349 --> 00:10:04.659 you take a minute to address something terrible 184 00:10:04.669 --> 00:10:06.840 that's happened and then you move on because 185 00:10:06.849 --> 00:10:10.119 there are questions that need to be answered and games that need to be played. 186 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:15.869 What he's saying is the conversation about his future is left for another day. 187 00:10:15.880 --> 00:10:18.169 That's not tactfully, that's factually 188 00:10:18.340 --> 00:10:21.250 he misspoke it's factually left for another day 189 00:10:21.260 --> 00:10:23.489 because as Robert Sala was meeting the media, 190 00:10:23.500 --> 00:10:26.869 he didn't have the first clue what Aaron Rodgers future was gonna be. 191 00:10:27.989 --> 00:10:29.760 I just don't think you need to say tactfully. 192 00:10:31.260 --> 00:10:32.789 It is so important 193 00:10:33.460 --> 00:10:35.859 to watch what you say, watch what you do 194 00:10:37.919 --> 00:10:40.890 because covering your tracks. This day and age 195 00:10:41.349 --> 00:10:42.710 with social media, 196 00:10:42.900 --> 00:10:44.409 with everything on tape, 197 00:10:44.729 --> 00:10:47.409 much easier to cover your tracks when people 198 00:10:47.650 --> 00:10:50.000 who was like rolling tape, hey, was that ever on tape? 199 00:10:50.010 --> 00:10:52.450 No, I think he said it to me, but I may have written it down wrong. 200 00:10:53.150 --> 00:10:55.559 Everyone's got everything that anyone says 201 00:10:56.739 --> 00:10:58.770 and you've got to be super careful. 202 00:10:59.169 --> 00:11:02.260 One of the most important relationships that I had in 203 00:11:02.270 --> 00:11:05.070 the front office was with our human resources director. 204 00:11:06.080 --> 00:11:09.289 And the reason that's such an important relationship as team president 205 00:11:09.530 --> 00:11:11.729 is when you are firing people, 206 00:11:12.380 --> 00:11:16.700 you need to get your ducks in a row. We used outside cos we had 207 00:11:16.830 --> 00:11:21.150 several outside council were involved in our hr issues. 208 00:11:21.169 --> 00:11:23.820 And the reason why you have hr Council 209 00:11:24.330 --> 00:11:27.330 is that no matter how badly you want to fire somebody 210 00:11:27.500 --> 00:11:29.450 or not renew their contract, 211 00:11:29.619 --> 00:11:32.309 you have to clear it with council, 212 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:36.049 then you do a plan with your human resources department, 213 00:11:36.059 --> 00:11:38.750 then you meet with the person and let them go. 214 00:11:40.900 --> 00:11:43.679 The reason why you have to go through those steps 215 00:11:44.099 --> 00:11:48.059 is that you do not want to open yourself up to a lawsuit 216 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:51.190 because what a lawsuit means for wrongful termination 217 00:11:51.440 --> 00:11:53.140 is that you're gonna have to pay. 218 00:11:54.190 --> 00:11:58.570 What we tried to always do in the front office over those 18 years 219 00:11:58.929 --> 00:12:03.159 was any time someone was fired, we demanded they signed a separation agreement. 220 00:12:03.200 --> 00:12:06.869 Part of the separation agreement was you're gonna get some severance. 221 00:12:06.880 --> 00:12:09.820 The other part is you're never gonna sue us. 222 00:12:10.570 --> 00:12:12.380 And once you sign that agreement, 223 00:12:13.979 --> 00:12:16.580 we cut you a check and then you leave. 224 00:12:16.700 --> 00:12:17.340 Now, 225 00:12:17.349 --> 00:12:20.130 we wouldn't always cut the same severance check because 226 00:12:20.140 --> 00:12:22.380 if someone refused to sign the separation agreement, 227 00:12:22.390 --> 00:12:24.210 then you're not gonna get the level of severance 228 00:12:24.219 --> 00:12:25.989 that you get when you sign a separation agreement, 229 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.150 it's the same sort of thing we used to do 230 00:12:28.380 --> 00:12:31.690 with players, young players who would not 231 00:12:31.900 --> 00:12:33.559 sign a contract 232 00:12:34.140 --> 00:12:36.179 in their first three years in the big leagues, 233 00:12:36.799 --> 00:12:39.020 we get to set their pay 234 00:12:39.619 --> 00:12:41.409 and they have to agree to it. 235 00:12:41.989 --> 00:12:44.179 And if they don't agree to it, it doesn't matter, 236 00:12:44.190 --> 00:12:46.099 they still get the same level of pay because 237 00:12:46.109 --> 00:12:47.940 they haven't earned the right to go to arbitration. 238 00:12:48.429 --> 00:12:49.880 But if they didn't agree to it, 239 00:12:49.890 --> 00:12:53.130 we had to do something called renewing a player's contract 240 00:12:53.489 --> 00:12:55.950 and we would always renew the players' contract 241 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:59.400 at an amount below what our last offer was 242 00:12:59.409 --> 00:13:03.320 to those players with 0 to 3 years experience 243 00:13:03.330 --> 00:13:06.020 because we wanted to have no players renew. 244 00:13:08.409 --> 00:13:11.299 There's a lawsuit that was filed against the NFL yesterday 245 00:13:11.489 --> 00:13:15.590 by former member of NFL. Media named Jim Trotter. 246 00:13:15.789 --> 00:13:18.020 You may remember the name Jim Trotter 247 00:13:18.140 --> 00:13:22.500 because he is the black man who would stand at a 248 00:13:22.510 --> 00:13:26.340 press conference and speak to the white Roger Goodell and say, 249 00:13:26.349 --> 00:13:30.320 excuse me, why is there so little diversity in the NFL? 250 00:13:30.330 --> 00:13:32.359 And every year he would ask about this, 251 00:13:32.369 --> 00:13:35.460 why is there so little diversity in our press room 252 00:13:35.679 --> 00:13:38.280 in our league. On our sidelines, 253 00:13:39.750 --> 00:13:41.650 there was an uncomfortable 254 00:13:41.929 --> 00:13:43.280 exchange 255 00:13:45.309 --> 00:13:50.049 la last year around the Super Bowl where Jim Trotter asked very important, 256 00:13:50.059 --> 00:13:51.159 very good questions. 257 00:13:51.169 --> 00:13:53.250 And on this show, it is my recollection 258 00:13:53.400 --> 00:13:55.429 that I said, how bizarre that 259 00:13:55.719 --> 00:13:58.599 Roger Goodell was not prepped 260 00:13:58.789 --> 00:14:00.820 to answer these questions. 261 00:14:01.539 --> 00:14:03.780 Whenever a commissioner meets the media, 262 00:14:04.549 --> 00:14:07.049 you have a Q and A ready. 263 00:14:07.250 --> 00:14:10.500 Whenever I met the media, I had a Q and A prepared. 264 00:14:10.510 --> 00:14:13.900 So I would look and I would make sure that I understood what talking points, 265 00:14:13.909 --> 00:14:17.380 what message I was trying to get out, how I would address certain issues. 266 00:14:19.590 --> 00:14:22.559 Jim Chatter's contract ran out 267 00:14:23.309 --> 00:14:24.760 and he was not renewed. 268 00:14:25.580 --> 00:14:29.109 And yesterday, word came of a lawsuit that he filed against the NFL 269 00:14:31.039 --> 00:14:33.570 seeking damages for wrongful termination. 270 00:14:34.880 --> 00:14:41.369 He hired the same lawyers as Brian Flores in his lawsuit against the NFL. 271 00:14:42.849 --> 00:14:47.859 The reason why the Jim Trotter lawsuit is so much more important 272 00:14:48.289 --> 00:14:51.659 and such a bigger problem for the NFL 273 00:14:52.289 --> 00:14:54.979 is what Trotter is a legend 274 00:14:55.359 --> 00:14:57.539 is that certain owners said certain things 275 00:14:57.549 --> 00:15:00.880 that led to or perpetuated or even promulgated 276 00:15:01.179 --> 00:15:03.059 the racist culture 277 00:15:03.169 --> 00:15:09.780 around the NFL, which leads to the lack of diversity in all things. NFL. 278 00:15:13.119 --> 00:15:15.780 He's claiming that Jerry Jones said, 279 00:15:16.109 --> 00:15:18.750 if blacks feel some kind of way they should buy 280 00:15:18.760 --> 00:15:20.969 their own team and hire who they want to hire. 281 00:15:23.570 --> 00:15:25.090 Jerry Jones 282 00:15:25.340 --> 00:15:26.900 had to respond to that 283 00:15:28.369 --> 00:15:32.440 by saying diversity and inclusion are extremely important to me personally. 284 00:15:32.450 --> 00:15:33.640 And to the NFL, 285 00:15:34.020 --> 00:15:36.650 the representation made by Jim Trotter of a 286 00:15:36.659 --> 00:15:40.559 conversation that occurred over three years ago with myself 287 00:15:40.840 --> 00:15:44.239 and our VP of player personnel is simply not accurate. 288 00:15:45.599 --> 00:15:48.429 Jerry Jones finds himself in trouble often 289 00:15:48.880 --> 00:15:53.130 and comes out and says things whereas he said she said 290 00:15:53.140 --> 00:15:56.549 because there's no video evidence that he actually said it, 291 00:15:58.070 --> 00:15:59.599 Jim Trotter knows this. 292 00:16:01.059 --> 00:16:05.270 Jim Trotter putting Jerry Jones into the complaint with his quote, 293 00:16:06.059 --> 00:16:07.570 his lawyers doing that 294 00:16:07.739 --> 00:16:09.469 and Jim Trotter agreed to do that. 295 00:16:10.250 --> 00:16:12.849 That is going to be highly combustible. 296 00:16:13.419 --> 00:16:17.409 That is going to cause a response from the NFL, 297 00:16:17.719 --> 00:16:20.599 which is exactly what you want in a litigation. 298 00:16:20.950 --> 00:16:25.320 If you can get the person, you are suing to speak publicly about the lawsuit, 299 00:16:26.070 --> 00:16:28.000 then you've got something that you can 300 00:16:28.150 --> 00:16:33.119 use as impeachment evidence. When you get that person on the stand, 301 00:16:34.799 --> 00:16:39.599 there is no reason for Jerry Jones or for anyone who gets sued to ever say one 302 00:16:39.609 --> 00:16:42.669 word publicly about the lawsuit except when you 303 00:16:42.679 --> 00:16:46.369 are an NFL owner and someone is impugning your 304 00:16:50.299 --> 00:16:52.359 saying that you are not a good guy 305 00:16:52.840 --> 00:16:54.479 saying that you are racist, 306 00:16:54.909 --> 00:16:56.390 saying that you said something. 307 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:58.570 You cannot wait, 308 00:16:58.890 --> 00:17:04.030 even though the lawyers for the NFL should be telling Jerry Jones to wait. 309 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:08.880 They knew they couldn't have him wait. You can't have that hanging over. 310 00:17:08.890 --> 00:17:11.270 It's no problem what Brian Flores alleged 311 00:17:12.050 --> 00:17:15.050 the NFL has no problem having it hang out there that 312 00:17:15.229 --> 00:17:17.839 it's a sham. The Rooney rule is a sham 313 00:17:18.260 --> 00:17:19.010 and that 314 00:17:19.140 --> 00:17:21.459 minority coaches don't get second chances. 315 00:17:21.469 --> 00:17:24.640 And all the other things that Brian Flores is correctly alleging 316 00:17:24.829 --> 00:17:25.780 no problem, 317 00:17:25.790 --> 00:17:31.920 but a specific statement by an owner with as much power as Jerry Jones and frankly, 318 00:17:31.930 --> 00:17:32.670 any owner, 319 00:17:34.189 --> 00:17:35.479 they're not gonna let stand 320 00:17:36.790 --> 00:17:40.329 Trotter's lawsuit. Also alleges that the owner of the Bills 321 00:17:41.310 --> 00:17:43.270 said if black players don't like it here, 322 00:17:43.280 --> 00:17:45.880 they should go back to Africa and see how bad it is 323 00:17:47.660 --> 00:17:48.550 that caused Pegula 324 00:17:48.800 --> 00:17:49.790 to make a statement. 325 00:17:51.130 --> 00:17:55.099 The statement attributed to me and Mr Trotter's complaint is absolutely false. 326 00:17:55.579 --> 00:17:59.739 I am horrified that anyone would connect me to an allegation of this kind. 327 00:18:00.849 --> 00:18:03.400 And then of course, the statement from page one 328 00:18:03.890 --> 00:18:06.619 race, racism has no place in our society. 329 00:18:06.630 --> 00:18:09.839 And I'm personally disgusted that my name is associated with this complaint. 330 00:18:11.089 --> 00:18:12.380 Where does that come from? 331 00:18:14.689 --> 00:18:18.319 Would lawyers ever take on a case and file a motion 332 00:18:18.859 --> 00:18:20.459 or file a complaint 333 00:18:21.140 --> 00:18:23.270 or put in a lawsuit? 334 00:18:23.520 --> 00:18:26.069 A statement made by an individual attributed to 335 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:28.270 that individual and have it completely made up? 336 00:18:28.420 --> 00:18:30.670 God, do I not want to believe that's true? 337 00:18:32.239 --> 00:18:37.599 What an absolute nightmare for our legal profession? If that's what lawyers do 338 00:18:37.719 --> 00:18:41.579 that they take what their client says as, oh, I guess that happened. 339 00:18:41.589 --> 00:18:42.709 Let's put it in the lawsuit. 340 00:18:43.189 --> 00:18:44.099 Wait a minute. 341 00:18:44.959 --> 00:18:46.609 That is our legal system. 342 00:18:47.810 --> 00:18:50.520 That is what half of the lawsuits are against 343 00:18:50.530 --> 00:18:53.359 big companies or when people feel they've been wronged, 344 00:18:53.369 --> 00:18:56.699 they go to a lawyer and they say to the lawyer, here's what happened. 345 00:18:56.709 --> 00:19:00.099 Here's what someone said to me, I'm aggrieved. I need money. 346 00:19:01.810 --> 00:19:03.500 And the lawyer says, well, 347 00:19:03.699 --> 00:19:06.979 I'll take a retainer, I'll give you an hourly cut on my rate, 348 00:19:06.989 --> 00:19:08.479 but I'm gonna take one third of whatever 349 00:19:08.489 --> 00:19:10.939 we recover that's called the contingency case. 350 00:19:10.949 --> 00:19:15.160 Sometimes there's not even an upfront payment or retainer. It's pure contingency. 351 00:19:15.609 --> 00:19:16.640 When is that 352 00:19:17.170 --> 00:19:21.060 when asbestos is involved or a personal injury or other ways 353 00:19:21.069 --> 00:19:23.089 that you can get money from a big company by saying, 354 00:19:23.099 --> 00:19:24.099 oh my neck. 355 00:19:24.410 --> 00:19:25.300 Oh, I can't have 356 00:19:25.420 --> 00:19:30.260 a relations. Oh my back. Give me 10 grand. I'll take three of that. No problem. 357 00:19:30.270 --> 00:19:33.969 You get seven, I get three and we live happily ever after because my expenses 358 00:19:34.250 --> 00:19:36.640 were about 100 bucks for doing this lawsuit. 359 00:19:38.349 --> 00:19:41.939 But this lawsuit against the NFL, if it goes all the way may 360 00:19:42.520 --> 00:19:45.140 we're talking millions of dollars of legal fees. 361 00:19:46.160 --> 00:19:48.150 But this lawsuit will not go all the way 362 00:19:48.270 --> 00:19:51.170 just like the Brian Flores lawsuit will not go all the way. 363 00:19:51.520 --> 00:19:56.130 It is way too costly and way too infrequent for lawsuits of this type to go all the way 364 00:19:57.099 --> 00:20:01.930 settlements happen when leagues believe or people believe or companies believe 365 00:20:02.140 --> 00:20:03.410 that the math says, 366 00:20:03.420 --> 00:20:07.069 settle for X because going all the way is X plus Y with 367 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:11.510 the chance that the judgment could be more than the original X anyway. 368 00:20:12.439 --> 00:20:14.449 Well, I don't want to admit that we're racist. 369 00:20:14.849 --> 00:20:16.729 I don't want to admit that we fired him 370 00:20:16.739 --> 00:20:19.040 for asking me questions that he shouldn't have asked. 371 00:20:20.069 --> 00:20:21.000 Well, Roger, 372 00:20:21.939 --> 00:20:25.829 sitting in a meeting yesterday, reading that lawsuit talking to his lieutenants, 373 00:20:27.489 --> 00:20:31.579 they know exactly why they fired Jim Trotter and didn't have his contract renewed. 374 00:20:33.650 --> 00:20:35.640 The NFL had to release a statement 375 00:20:36.310 --> 00:20:39.000 saying we take his concerns seriously 376 00:20:39.030 --> 00:20:42.939 but strongly dispute his specific allegations. 377 00:20:43.479 --> 00:20:45.800 That's such a great statement by the NFL. 378 00:20:46.689 --> 00:20:49.770 They have to take it seriously or their constituents are gonna 379 00:20:49.780 --> 00:20:53.660 be angry that they don't take racism seriously and wrongful termination. 380 00:20:53.729 --> 00:20:54.290 But 381 00:20:54.609 --> 00:20:57.260 our owners aren't racist. Don't be ridiculous. 382 00:21:00.589 --> 00:21:03.229 Then the NFL said any decisions made not to 383 00:21:03.239 --> 00:21:07.199 renew Jim Trotter's contract were driven by budget constraints. 384 00:21:07.550 --> 00:21:09.500 That's my favorite. Excuse, 385 00:21:09.859 --> 00:21:12.459 everything I did. I would always say that's budget constraints. 386 00:21:12.469 --> 00:21:14.040 We're eliminating the position. 387 00:21:15.010 --> 00:21:16.859 Do you know if you say you're eliminating a position, 388 00:21:16.869 --> 00:21:19.660 you can get away with firing anybody you want? 389 00:21:20.329 --> 00:21:22.390 That is the go to from a 390 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:26.500 lawyer to tell a company the easiest way to fire this person. 391 00:21:26.630 --> 00:21:27.780 If it's a woman, 392 00:21:27.920 --> 00:21:34.140 if it's a person of color is to say, hey, just say the position is gone 393 00:21:34.540 --> 00:21:39.739 and then they cannot allege that there's any sort of racism involved. 394 00:21:43.099 --> 00:21:44.310 This is the law, 395 00:21:44.859 --> 00:21:46.630 there are ways to change the law, 396 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:49.630 but you're gonna have to contact your local representatives. 397 00:21:51.369 --> 00:21:53.619 So the NFL is in a position right now 398 00:21:53.989 --> 00:21:55.359 where they have to 399 00:21:55.760 --> 00:21:57.160 argue against something 400 00:21:57.439 --> 00:21:58.780 that they know they did. 401 00:21:59.739 --> 00:22:01.869 Do you think for one second 402 00:22:02.310 --> 00:22:06.650 there was not a conversation at the upper levels of the NFL saying we 403 00:22:06.660 --> 00:22:10.739 pay this guy every two weeks and he's gonna make me look bad. 404 00:22:10.839 --> 00:22:11.989 See you later. 405 00:22:13.290 --> 00:22:17.500 And if it were a white reporter who had said these things 406 00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:20.170 and questioned Roger Goodell, 407 00:22:20.849 --> 00:22:22.339 he would have been fired, 408 00:22:22.750 --> 00:22:23.859 not renewed. 409 00:22:24.510 --> 00:22:29.719 The fact that Jim Trotter is a black reporter and he was fired and not renewed. Is it 410 00:22:29.900 --> 00:22:31.719 his color that matters? 411 00:22:33.619 --> 00:22:35.300 It is his actions. 412 00:22:36.140 --> 00:22:38.819 NFL media is not independent 413 00:22:39.119 --> 00:22:43.819 MLB dot com. MLB network. They're not independent. 414 00:22:43.969 --> 00:22:47.339 I don't care if you're red, orange, black, white, 415 00:22:47.439 --> 00:22:48.420 brown. 416 00:22:48.599 --> 00:22:53.300 I don't care, man, woman, non binary. It doesn't matter. 417 00:22:53.800 --> 00:22:57.640 You answer to the company and you cannot 418 00:22:57.829 --> 00:22:58.949 do anything 419 00:22:59.739 --> 00:23:01.640 that the company doesn't want you to do or 420 00:23:01.650 --> 00:23:03.729 you're not gonna be working for the company anymore. 421 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:05.170 Do I agree 422 00:23:05.520 --> 00:23:06.430 with this 423 00:23:07.459 --> 00:23:08.630 back then? I did 424 00:23:08.959 --> 00:23:11.670 now, I totally understand why 425 00:23:11.849 --> 00:23:13.119 it's terrible 426 00:23:13.310 --> 00:23:16.140 to have that absolute lack 427 00:23:16.300 --> 00:23:17.150 of 428 00:23:17.949 --> 00:23:19.280 transparency. 429 00:23:20.420 --> 00:23:23.589 Do you remember when MLB Network fired Ken Rosenthal? 430 00:23:26.290 --> 00:23:29.170 No one questioned. What, what color is Ken Rosenthal? 431 00:23:29.180 --> 00:23:32.579 What they question was he criticized Rob Manfred. 432 00:23:32.589 --> 00:23:36.979 And do you think that that had nothing to do with him not being on MLB Network? 433 00:23:36.989 --> 00:23:38.339 Of course it, did 434 00:23:39.369 --> 00:23:42.239 you think that Rob Manfred or anyone who works in the commissioner's office 435 00:23:42.250 --> 00:23:47.640 or any owner would allow anyone on MLB Network to be overtly critical 436 00:23:48.020 --> 00:23:52.619 of an owner in a way that is not defensible. Like saying, hey, your team stinks. 437 00:23:52.630 --> 00:23:55.199 You're right. We've only won 50 games. Our team stinks. 438 00:23:56.979 --> 00:24:01.390 John Fisher, the owner of the athletics can have someone fired for an MLB Network. 439 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:04.369 Them saying this is a historically bad Oakland A's team. 440 00:24:04.599 --> 00:24:05.140 Hey, 441 00:24:05.640 --> 00:24:07.369 truth is an affirmative defense. 442 00:24:09.229 --> 00:24:12.319 But if you're gonna talk about third rail issues like the 443 00:24:12.619 --> 00:24:14.319 rule, the Rooney rule 444 00:24:15.050 --> 00:24:17.099 diversity inclusion, 445 00:24:18.109 --> 00:24:20.760 you better know that if you don't toe the company line, 446 00:24:20.859 --> 00:24:24.199 you will not have a company email for long. 447 00:24:25.219 --> 00:24:27.060 So the way this lawsuit will end 448 00:24:27.589 --> 00:24:28.930 is with a settlement, 449 00:24:29.189 --> 00:24:34.270 it will be impossible for trotter to prove that it was not budget constraints. 450 00:24:35.699 --> 00:24:39.949 It will be impossible for the NFL to ever prove to anybody that 451 00:24:39.959 --> 00:24:44.229 it was anything other than firing him for his criticism of Goodell. 452 00:24:45.640 --> 00:24:49.089 And when impossibility like that exists on both sides, 453 00:24:49.689 --> 00:24:51.359 that's when settlement happens. 454 00:24:53.109 --> 00:24:56.180 All right, when we come back, I'm gonna review a movie that I watched 455 00:24:56.390 --> 00:24:58.920 and then I have a question that one of you asked me and I'm 456 00:24:58.930 --> 00:25:02.140 so happy you did because I was not up to date on this subject. 457 00:25:02.150 --> 00:25:07.079 We're gonna do a hockey segment and we're gonna do a segment about a team in Columbus. 458 00:25:07.260 --> 00:25:10.280 Hell yeah, we love you, Ohio. We'll be right back. 459 00:25:19.719 --> 00:25:23.349 Welcome back to Nothing personal. It's David Samson, Matthew Coca 460 00:25:23.800 --> 00:25:25.650 coming to you live at 8 a.m. 461 00:25:25.760 --> 00:25:28.469 on the Nothing Personal with David Sampson youtube channel. 462 00:25:28.609 --> 00:25:31.969 Please go to our website, David Samson podcast dot com. 463 00:25:31.989 --> 00:25:35.540 Thank you for all the orders of merchandise. Thank you for your 464 00:25:36.119 --> 00:25:40.329 loyalty to our show that continues to grow and we love doing it. 465 00:25:41.420 --> 00:25:43.550 So, subscribe and tell your friends, 466 00:25:44.290 --> 00:25:46.699 I'm about to review a movie that I watched yesterday 467 00:25:47.270 --> 00:25:49.130 and I spent $29.99 468 00:25:49.390 --> 00:25:50.040 to buy it. 469 00:25:50.180 --> 00:25:53.780 And I don't remember the last time I spent a better $30 470 00:25:54.079 --> 00:25:57.540 Barbie was available to stream and I had never seen it. 471 00:25:58.560 --> 00:25:59.410 You know, me, 472 00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:02.810 probably better than maybe you thought you ever 473 00:26:02.819 --> 00:26:05.150 would or than I ever thought people should. 474 00:26:05.800 --> 00:26:08.170 I don't read reviews before. I see a movie. 475 00:26:09.589 --> 00:26:11.719 I didn't know what Barbie was about. 476 00:26:13.560 --> 00:26:15.790 I thought that it was a doll movie. 477 00:26:16.170 --> 00:26:17.750 I didn't know whether it was live action or there 478 00:26:17.760 --> 00:26:20.920 was some animation or if it was a satire, 479 00:26:20.930 --> 00:26:21.810 I didn't know anything 480 00:26:23.109 --> 00:26:24.739 but I did know that I had to see it. 481 00:26:25.359 --> 00:26:27.140 So it's available for purchase 482 00:26:27.430 --> 00:26:28.319 and rent 483 00:26:28.709 --> 00:26:30.869 at a high price on Apple TV. 484 00:26:31.130 --> 00:26:34.329 But I wanted to pay it because I didn't want to go to a theater to see it, 485 00:26:34.339 --> 00:26:35.430 but I did wanna see it. 486 00:26:37.329 --> 00:26:38.160 Barbie 487 00:26:39.229 --> 00:26:42.060 is in the top five of any movie I've seen this year. 488 00:26:43.530 --> 00:26:47.099 The script deserves to be nominated for screenplay. 489 00:26:47.689 --> 00:26:51.500 Greta Gerwig deserves to be nominated for best director. 490 00:26:52.300 --> 00:26:56.069 Margot Robbie deserves to be nominated for best actress, 491 00:26:58.020 --> 00:26:58.829 best 492 00:26:59.310 --> 00:27:00.150 score, 493 00:27:01.050 --> 00:27:01.770 best 494 00:27:01.939 --> 00:27:02.770 song, 495 00:27:03.699 --> 00:27:07.270 Ryan Gosling was outstanding and 496 00:27:07.689 --> 00:27:10.810 I have my next New Year's resolution. COCA 497 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:13.170 apparently you can look like Ryan 498 00:27:13.329 --> 00:27:15.250 gosling with a nine minute workout every day. 499 00:27:16.329 --> 00:27:17.459 Nine minutes. 500 00:27:17.630 --> 00:27:19.270 I got nine minutes to spare. 501 00:27:19.770 --> 00:27:19.989 So, 502 00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:21.900 what you don't see right now if you're not watching 503 00:27:21.910 --> 00:27:24.380 the show is I'm sitting in a glove chair, 504 00:27:24.390 --> 00:27:26.760 but I'm really in the plank position 505 00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:30.020 and I've been in it for 27 straight minutes. 506 00:27:30.750 --> 00:27:33.500 I've got some abs going baby. 507 00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:35.530 No, I don't, 508 00:27:36.489 --> 00:27:38.619 I do not have a one pack. 509 00:27:39.500 --> 00:27:41.079 Barbie is about 510 00:27:41.449 --> 00:27:44.300 a movie where there is a world where women 511 00:27:45.579 --> 00:27:46.439 are men 512 00:27:47.069 --> 00:27:50.260 and I don't mean transgender. I don't mean in a sexual way. 513 00:27:50.270 --> 00:27:52.390 I mean, in the way they interpret and 514 00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:54.869 basically engage with the world. 515 00:27:55.619 --> 00:27:58.910 Barbie land is a place where women rule. 516 00:28:00.170 --> 00:28:02.739 There is a monologue by American Ferrara 517 00:28:03.689 --> 00:28:04.579 in Barbie. 518 00:28:04.689 --> 00:28:08.180 That is one of the best monologues I've seen in a movie in a very long time, 519 00:28:08.449 --> 00:28:10.439 which gives an example, 520 00:28:11.069 --> 00:28:12.030 two people 521 00:28:12.930 --> 00:28:14.939 about what it is to be a woman, 522 00:28:15.069 --> 00:28:16.839 what it is to be a working woman, 523 00:28:16.849 --> 00:28:19.540 what it is to be a mom who works a mom who doesn't work 524 00:28:19.550 --> 00:28:24.380 all the things that attempt to be captured in certain movies with certain scripts, 525 00:28:24.390 --> 00:28:25.719 in certain scenes, 526 00:28:27.760 --> 00:28:30.520 Greta Gerwig and Barbie captures it 527 00:28:30.949 --> 00:28:33.520 in the most significantly meaningful way that I've 528 00:28:33.530 --> 00:28:35.369 seen on camera in a very long time. 529 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:42.150 My suggestion to you is that if you've seen Barbie see it again, 530 00:28:42.510 --> 00:28:47.079 I'm going to do something that I rarely do in 1977. 531 00:28:47.670 --> 00:28:51.530 When Greece came out, I went to see Greece two nights in a row. 532 00:28:51.640 --> 00:28:53.959 I was so in love with Olivia Newton. John. 533 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:56.920 I love the music so much. I'm singing Summer Loving 534 00:28:58.609 --> 00:29:02.670 and I saw it Night two with my step Aunt. 535 00:29:03.270 --> 00:29:04.020 Terry. 536 00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:06.500 I think your husband listens to this show. Not you, 537 00:29:06.699 --> 00:29:09.420 but Terry Stern took me to Greece when I, 538 00:29:09.430 --> 00:29:11.609 when it came out when I was nine or 10 years old. 539 00:29:12.479 --> 00:29:16.250 I don't usually watch movies two days in a row. I'm watching Barbie tonight. 540 00:29:17.530 --> 00:29:18.739 That's how good it was. 541 00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:20.540 All right, 542 00:29:21.209 --> 00:29:21.869 Coca 543 00:29:22.310 --> 00:29:23.689 play some music, please. 544 00:29:25.020 --> 00:29:26.099 You know what I want, 545 00:29:29.280 --> 00:29:31.069 I wanna talk to Samson. 546 00:29:31.329 --> 00:29:33.329 So you wanna talk to Samson? 547 00:29:33.489 --> 00:29:36.630 This came via DM on Twitter at David P. Sampson. 548 00:29:37.250 --> 00:29:40.380 Sometimes it comes through David Samson podcast dot com. 549 00:29:42.349 --> 00:29:46.890 WTF is going on in Columbus exclamation point. 550 00:29:47.319 --> 00:29:51.670 New head coach is already in some turmoil and there's this statement. 551 00:29:51.680 --> 00:29:52.819 Question mark. 552 00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:55.369 Well, thank you for that DM. 553 00:29:56.459 --> 00:29:59.349 I wish you had just said, hey, David, how are you? How's your day? 554 00:30:00.119 --> 00:30:02.420 But I appreciate that you took the time to contact me 555 00:30:02.729 --> 00:30:06.410 and I must tell you that when you sent me that to show you that I do look 556 00:30:06.420 --> 00:30:11.369 at as many D MS and emails as possible during the course of a normal 21 hour day. 557 00:30:11.989 --> 00:30:13.760 I had not heard of this. 558 00:30:14.199 --> 00:30:15.959 I was not able to tell you 559 00:30:16.150 --> 00:30:17.619 who the coach was 560 00:30:17.900 --> 00:30:20.030 of the Columbus Blue Jackets. 561 00:30:20.040 --> 00:30:22.239 I was able to say what the nickname was of the team, 562 00:30:22.250 --> 00:30:25.869 but I didn't really know that Mike Babcock was the coach. 563 00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:27.900 I didn't know that Boone Jenner was the captain. 564 00:30:28.709 --> 00:30:31.849 I didn't know that Mike Babcock hadn't coached since he 565 00:30:31.859 --> 00:30:34.479 was in Toronto in 2019 and he got fired. 566 00:30:34.489 --> 00:30:39.719 I didn't realize all of the issues that had surrounded Mike Babcock. 567 00:30:41.209 --> 00:30:43.180 I didn't know that a former player of his 568 00:30:43.189 --> 00:30:45.859 had called him the worst person he'd ever met. 569 00:30:47.790 --> 00:30:52.520 And then I did some reading because the first thing I saw was the statement 570 00:30:53.209 --> 00:30:54.949 where Mike Babcock said, 571 00:30:55.310 --> 00:31:00.650 while meeting with our players and staff, I asked them to share off their phones, 572 00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:04.380 family pictures as part of the process of getting to know them better. 573 00:31:05.020 --> 00:31:07.949 There was absolutely nothing more to it than that 574 00:31:10.699 --> 00:31:11.510 except 575 00:31:12.469 --> 00:31:13.719 a former player. 576 00:31:14.140 --> 00:31:15.719 Went on a podcast. 577 00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:19.609 He's now a Panelist on TNT. His name is Paul 578 00:31:19.829 --> 00:31:20.040 Bissonette. 579 00:31:21.109 --> 00:31:24.560 He went on a podcast, a Barstool podcast and said 580 00:31:25.319 --> 00:31:28.849 that he found it to be totally. Oh, it's his podcast. Excuse me, 581 00:31:31.810 --> 00:31:35.420 that made me cough and sneeze that I did not have that right. Thank you. Coca 582 00:31:36.839 --> 00:31:37.329 Paul 583 00:31:37.670 --> 00:31:40.500 has a con has a podcast called Spit and Chilis. 584 00:31:40.930 --> 00:31:44.089 And on the podcast, he was talking about what was going on Columbus 585 00:31:44.310 --> 00:31:45.270 and said 586 00:31:45.599 --> 00:31:48.400 that what the coach was doing was basically 587 00:31:48.699 --> 00:31:53.380 getting access to his players phones and then airplane 588 00:31:53.890 --> 00:31:56.640 airplay in not airplane 589 00:31:56.760 --> 00:31:58.609 in airplay in 590 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:03.699 what's on the phone onto a screen in front of the team. 591 00:32:03.790 --> 00:32:07.449 So showing team members or other coaches photos in the camera, 592 00:32:07.459 --> 00:32:09.319 camera role of players, 593 00:32:11.550 --> 00:32:13.109 Mike Babcock is saying 594 00:32:14.089 --> 00:32:16.750 that that is a gross misrepresentation of what 595 00:32:16.760 --> 00:32:19.410 those meetings were and it's extremely offensive. 596 00:32:20.219 --> 00:32:23.469 These meetings have been very important and beneficial, 597 00:32:23.479 --> 00:32:25.829 not only for me but for our players and staff 598 00:32:26.380 --> 00:32:29.790 and to have them depicted like this is irresponsible and inaccurate. 599 00:32:32.219 --> 00:32:34.609 What Mike Babcock is trying to tell you is that it's 600 00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:36.770 totally normal when you're getting to know someone to say, 601 00:32:36.780 --> 00:32:38.449 hey, give me your phone 602 00:32:38.670 --> 00:32:42.349 and you're doing it to people over whom you have power. 603 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:47.709 If you meet someone in a bar and say hi, can I see your phone? They get to say no, thanks. 604 00:32:47.719 --> 00:32:49.890 See you later. Drink in the face 605 00:32:50.569 --> 00:32:52.650 when you hire someone to work for you, 606 00:32:52.660 --> 00:32:56.880 like a player is hired to work for a coach and a coach is hired to work for a president. 607 00:32:56.890 --> 00:33:00.160 I can't go to my manager and say, hey, show me your camera mole. 608 00:33:00.369 --> 00:33:02.250 I keep saying Camera Mole, 609 00:33:04.150 --> 00:33:05.280 I'm overexcited 610 00:33:05.439 --> 00:33:07.520 and over excitement generally leads to tears. 611 00:33:07.949 --> 00:33:08.560 2 612 00:33:08.750 --> 00:33:10.719 48 69 613 00:33:11.699 --> 00:33:13.430 you cannot say 614 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:19.969 to your player or I cannot say to my manager. Show me your camera role. 615 00:33:20.959 --> 00:33:27.790 That's absolutely out of the realm of possibility. Even under the umbrella of, 616 00:33:28.150 --> 00:33:29.510 I wanna get to know you. 617 00:33:30.540 --> 00:33:33.869 If you wanna get to know somebody, you talk to them, you meet with them, 618 00:33:33.880 --> 00:33:35.390 you break bread with them. 619 00:33:35.819 --> 00:33:39.000 Then if they volunteer, hey, do you wanna see a picture of my kids? 620 00:33:39.010 --> 00:33:40.459 Here's a picture of the kids. 621 00:33:40.579 --> 00:33:44.040 How many of you when someone gives you their camera to say, look at this photo, 622 00:33:44.050 --> 00:33:47.010 do you ever start scrolling in their camera roll? 623 00:33:47.209 --> 00:33:49.890 Of course, you don't, you'd feel queasy 624 00:33:50.729 --> 00:33:51.900 you're not allowed to. 625 00:33:52.589 --> 00:33:54.530 It's a total violation 626 00:33:54.719 --> 00:33:57.760 to scroll someone's camera roll when they're showing 627 00:33:57.770 --> 00:34:00.400 you one particular photo in their camera roll. 628 00:34:00.410 --> 00:34:02.739 I am not all that trustworthy. 629 00:34:02.910 --> 00:34:04.719 When I wanna show someone a picture, 630 00:34:04.729 --> 00:34:07.800 either I'll text it to them or show them the picture. 631 00:34:07.810 --> 00:34:09.530 Keeping the phone in my hand 632 00:34:09.918 --> 00:34:11.409 here. Look at this photo. 633 00:34:11.699 --> 00:34:14.918 All right. That's enough. No scrolling for you. 634 00:34:15.540 --> 00:34:16.310 Next, 635 00:34:18.370 --> 00:34:21.300 Columbus had to do some serious, serious 636 00:34:21.810 --> 00:34:22.978 pr management. 637 00:34:23.250 --> 00:34:25.918 They had their captain come up and say I met with 638 00:34:26.090 --> 00:34:29.879 Babs. He asked me about my family, my wedding hockey stuff. 639 00:34:29.889 --> 00:34:32.510 And then he asked if I had pictures of my family 640 00:34:32.679 --> 00:34:35.379 and I was happy to share some with him. 641 00:34:36.810 --> 00:34:38.889 I thought it was a great first meeting and good 642 00:34:38.899 --> 00:34:40.938 way for us to start to build a relationship. 643 00:34:41.620 --> 00:34:43.389 This is blown out of proportion. 644 00:34:44.719 --> 00:34:47.320 That is outstanding that Columbus could go to 645 00:34:47.330 --> 00:34:49.438 their captain and get their captain to back 646 00:34:49.449 --> 00:34:53.728 up what the coach was saying because there could have been a mutiny on the bounty 647 00:34:55.958 --> 00:34:58.540 if Boone Jenner or any other player 648 00:34:58.790 --> 00:35:01.919 had actually agreed with the Spitting Chick Lits 649 00:35:02.389 --> 00:35:03.290 podcaster 650 00:35:04.610 --> 00:35:06.459 this would have been it for Mike Babcock. 651 00:35:07.250 --> 00:35:09.179 He would have had to be let go 652 00:35:11.100 --> 00:35:14.110 by, by having your captain come out in favor 653 00:35:15.129 --> 00:35:17.280 and ostensibly other players as well. 654 00:35:17.750 --> 00:35:20.459 That's how Mike Babcock is saving his job though. 655 00:35:20.469 --> 00:35:24.439 I as president of the blue jackets am sitting in a meeting with him and saying 656 00:35:24.989 --> 00:35:25.699 Mikey, 657 00:35:27.129 --> 00:35:28.050 we like it, 658 00:35:28.389 --> 00:35:29.370 we want you. 659 00:35:30.709 --> 00:35:31.590 However, 660 00:35:32.280 --> 00:35:34.850 we are all a victim of things we've done in the past. 661 00:35:35.229 --> 00:35:39.570 There is some noise around you similar to the noise different. 662 00:35:40.330 --> 00:35:41.939 Remember the uh coach 663 00:35:42.899 --> 00:35:45.810 who's the coach who was hired Coca in basketball, 664 00:35:46.030 --> 00:35:47.439 who had the problem 665 00:35:47.629 --> 00:35:51.870 with either abuse or ad U I? And I thought he wouldn't coach a game. Shaun C Billips. 666 00:35:52.699 --> 00:35:54.189 Is he the coach of Portland? 667 00:35:55.300 --> 00:35:58.780 I am having a total blank at the moment. So he is, thank you. 668 00:35:59.179 --> 00:36:02.060 And remember I said my way to see is he wouldn't coach a game and they'd 669 00:36:02.070 --> 00:36:06.149 get rid of him the way the Mets fired Carlos Beltran after the sign stealing scandal 670 00:36:07.260 --> 00:36:09.149 and Phillips ended up staying and coaching 671 00:36:10.090 --> 00:36:13.959 Babcock is going to stay in coach, but he got spoken to and was told very clearly. 672 00:36:13.969 --> 00:36:14.530 Listen, 673 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:16.639 you're gonna have to take it down a notch. 674 00:36:17.189 --> 00:36:21.419 You're gonna have to make it. So there we are beyond reproach. 675 00:36:21.439 --> 00:36:24.719 We don't want anybody saying anything that's sort of, we are not of the ordinary. 676 00:36:25.419 --> 00:36:29.310 If you want to show pictures of other people's families to other people, 677 00:36:29.320 --> 00:36:33.629 you better make sure that it's them doing it, call them to the front of the room, 678 00:36:33.639 --> 00:36:35.149 have them air play their own 679 00:36:35.360 --> 00:36:36.149 phone. 680 00:36:38.260 --> 00:36:40.929 We'll see what happens with that. But you're right. Thank you for that. 681 00:36:40.939 --> 00:36:43.560 So you want to talk to Sampson. That is some amount of turmoil. 682 00:36:43.780 --> 00:36:47.830 And the statement is the only way that Mike Babcock was able to keep his job. 683 00:36:49.479 --> 00:36:51.870 I'm not sure that I'm gonna be able to keep my job with my picks 684 00:36:51.879 --> 00:36:55.209 of the day unless you've been fading me because I am cold as ice. 685 00:36:55.370 --> 00:36:57.649 I think I was 1 21 and 1 17 686 00:36:57.929 --> 00:37:03.689 and I am three and 11 in my last 14, which is absolutely horrific. Goddamn Max 687 00:37:04.010 --> 00:37:04.229 Scherzer. 688 00:37:06.030 --> 00:37:08.739 The Blue Jays did not beat the Rangers. 689 00:37:08.979 --> 00:37:10.959 We're 1 24 and 1 28. 690 00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:12.639 We have three weeks left. 691 00:37:13.290 --> 00:37:14.780 Today's the 13th. 692 00:37:15.120 --> 00:37:19.419 It's more than three weeks, 23 33. 0, no, it's three weeks, 693 00:37:20.090 --> 00:37:25.820 30 days. Hat September, April. 30 days, I'd say 30 days. Hats. September. 694 00:37:25.830 --> 00:37:29.570 It's actually 30 days. Half September. I think 695 00:37:29.860 --> 00:37:32.530 someone will correct me on at David P. Sampson. 696 00:37:32.540 --> 00:37:35.939 I'm sure 30 days, half September, April, June and November. 697 00:37:35.949 --> 00:37:39.820 All the rest of 31 except February, which has 28 and 29 every four years. 698 00:37:39.830 --> 00:37:43.169 So September has 30 days, 13th, 3 months, 13 to 17. 699 00:37:43.300 --> 00:37:46.550 So that's 18 plus three of October because it starts October 3rd. 700 00:37:46.560 --> 00:37:48.780 That's 21 3 weeks from today. 701 00:37:49.729 --> 00:37:51.300 What a race we have 702 00:37:51.959 --> 00:37:54.879 the A L West is absolutely insane. 703 00:37:55.110 --> 00:37:56.330 It is half. Thank you, 704 00:37:57.469 --> 00:38:00.080 Coke is on it today. He is on it. 705 00:38:02.020 --> 00:38:03.469 Please watch the A Os. 706 00:38:03.479 --> 00:38:06.989 There's three teams, one of them is going to win the division looking like Houston, 707 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.429 one of them is going to make the playoffs. 708 00:38:08.439 --> 00:38:11.850 Could be either Seattle or Texas. One of them may not make it if Toronto does. 709 00:38:12.459 --> 00:38:16.090 That's why the James Jays Ranger games, these are important 710 00:38:18.080 --> 00:38:19.090 and Scherzer 711 00:38:19.250 --> 00:38:20.330 may be hurt. 712 00:38:20.850 --> 00:38:23.929 He was taken out of the game with a tricep issue. 713 00:38:24.510 --> 00:38:25.209 Uh-oh, 714 00:38:25.409 --> 00:38:27.770 that's not Tommy John, but it ain't great. 715 00:38:28.959 --> 00:38:31.090 Verlander for Houston couldn't get a win. 716 00:38:32.560 --> 00:38:33.790 Are Mets fans happy. 717 00:38:34.449 --> 00:38:35.459 I'm just curious. 718 00:38:36.750 --> 00:38:41.419 Are Mets fans at all? Ok. With the fact that Scherzer and Verlander were traded, 719 00:38:42.810 --> 00:38:45.600 are you not understanding at all? 720 00:38:46.149 --> 00:38:47.520 The importance 721 00:38:47.719 --> 00:38:48.739 of knowing 722 00:38:48.899 --> 00:38:51.100 when you're not gonna get it done 723 00:38:51.550 --> 00:38:53.219 and being willing to start over 724 00:38:54.590 --> 00:38:57.760 and the importance of getting someone to help you start over 725 00:38:58.959 --> 00:39:01.100 the New York Mets announced yesterday 726 00:39:01.469 --> 00:39:03.219 through a source. So it's not official 727 00:39:04.229 --> 00:39:10.659 that David Stearns is coming to New York. Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah. 728 00:39:11.100 --> 00:39:11.709 Hallelujah 729 00:39:14.120 --> 00:39:16.939 Steve Cohen did a press conference where he said we're waiting 730 00:39:16.949 --> 00:39:18.530 for the right guy if we have to wait years, 731 00:39:18.540 --> 00:39:19.649 days, weeks, months, 732 00:39:19.659 --> 00:39:23.300 centuries scores doesn't matter because we're gonna bring in someone. 733 00:39:23.310 --> 00:39:25.770 Sorry, Billy Epler, you're gonna keep your job, 734 00:39:25.780 --> 00:39:27.729 but you're gonna now be reporting to someone other than 735 00:39:27.739 --> 00:39:30.270 me because I don't want to take calls no more. 736 00:39:32.149 --> 00:39:33.949 I shouldn't use bad grammar in English. 737 00:39:34.479 --> 00:39:36.679 I don't want to take your calls anymore. 738 00:39:37.929 --> 00:39:39.340 David Sterns, 739 00:39:39.530 --> 00:39:40.699 New Yorker 740 00:39:41.139 --> 00:39:42.780 rumored to maybe be going to Houston. 741 00:39:42.790 --> 00:39:44.939 I wonder where that came out because his wife is from Houston. 742 00:39:44.949 --> 00:39:48.449 Maybe that was part of the negotiation with Steve Cohen. I'm a free agent. 743 00:39:48.459 --> 00:39:50.659 I may wanna run the Houston Astros because 744 00:39:50.669 --> 00:39:53.100 everyone really wants to work for Jim Crane. 745 00:39:55.360 --> 00:39:59.530 David Sterns in a total surprise 746 00:39:59.800 --> 00:40:02.100 is now the president base of operations for the Mets 747 00:40:02.610 --> 00:40:03.409 and that's it. 748 00:40:04.080 --> 00:40:05.399 There's nothing more to say 749 00:40:06.530 --> 00:40:07.439 your 750 00:40:07.820 --> 00:40:10.500 problems are over Steve. 751 00:40:11.500 --> 00:40:14.020 I think you should pay him more than Andrew Friedman 752 00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:17.629 pay him. People are rumored 15 million a year for five years. 753 00:40:17.750 --> 00:40:18.469 Great 754 00:40:19.330 --> 00:40:22.659 G MS in theory, are presidents baseball operations 755 00:40:23.379 --> 00:40:27.080 in theory and in practice more important than any one particular player though, 756 00:40:27.090 --> 00:40:27.540 of course, 757 00:40:27.550 --> 00:40:30.899 no one does a TV deal or does a cable package or a streaming service 758 00:40:30.909 --> 00:40:35.270 or buys a ticket to see the president of baseball operations or the team president, 759 00:40:35.429 --> 00:40:36.899 they do it to see the players, 760 00:40:36.909 --> 00:40:38.830 but the president of baseball operations decides 761 00:40:38.840 --> 00:40:40.830 which players they're gonna get to see and 762 00:40:40.840 --> 00:40:43.879 if they get it right and put a winning team together with no stars, 763 00:40:43.889 --> 00:40:45.199 it can be like Tampa. 764 00:40:45.489 --> 00:40:45.679 Uh 765 00:40:45.840 --> 00:40:46.419 oh 766 00:40:46.560 --> 00:40:49.060 we don't want to be like Tampa, we want to actually draw people, 767 00:40:50.290 --> 00:40:51.570 we want more revenue. 768 00:40:51.780 --> 00:40:53.179 We want World Series. 769 00:40:56.050 --> 00:40:57.540 David Steams 770 00:40:59.030 --> 00:41:01.600 is not going to be the difference maker. 771 00:41:02.250 --> 00:41:03.780 It's Steve Cohn, 772 00:41:04.860 --> 00:41:10.590 if Steve Cohen is willing to run a payroll in the top three every single year, 773 00:41:11.570 --> 00:41:15.010 by definition, they will win more than they lose. 774 00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:16.899 And the GM could be 775 00:41:17.040 --> 00:41:17.739 you. 776 00:41:18.830 --> 00:41:22.659 And I am not saying that it is not an important job and that there are 777 00:41:22.669 --> 00:41:25.209 not qualifications needed to do it because being 778 00:41:25.219 --> 00:41:28.860 the president based operations requires great business acumen 779 00:41:30.129 --> 00:41:32.219 it is a huge business you're running. 780 00:41:33.830 --> 00:41:37.070 But in terms of the correlation between 781 00:41:37.479 --> 00:41:39.820 sustained competitiveness 782 00:41:40.030 --> 00:41:41.209 and payroll, 783 00:41:41.800 --> 00:41:44.080 that is a far greater correlation, 784 00:41:45.189 --> 00:41:48.620 then sustained competitiveness and the brilliance 785 00:41:48.629 --> 00:41:50.360 of your president of baseball operations. 786 00:41:51.979 --> 00:41:55.939 There are examples away from the standard deviation. 787 00:41:56.060 --> 00:41:58.209 The Tampa Bay Rays are a great example 788 00:41:58.649 --> 00:42:02.649 where they have found a way to have sustained competitiveness with low payrolls. 789 00:42:03.750 --> 00:42:09.320 But the majority within the bell curve is that if your payroll is high, 790 00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:10.760 you're gonna win 791 00:42:11.419 --> 00:42:13.909 unless your name is AJ Preller. 792 00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:19.179 So congratulations to the Mets. I'm slightly disappointed 793 00:42:19.510 --> 00:42:20.929 in that two years ago. 794 00:42:21.149 --> 00:42:23.889 On October 14th, 2022 795 00:42:24.270 --> 00:42:27.810 I had to wait to see, wait to see is when I tell you something's gonna happen 796 00:42:28.000 --> 00:42:30.229 and sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. 797 00:42:30.889 --> 00:42:33.739 But either way we keep track and either way 798 00:42:33.750 --> 00:42:35.620 I will acknowledge when I get something wrong, 799 00:42:36.429 --> 00:42:41.719 I have thought for all these years that Steve Cohen would give Theo Epstein 800 00:42:41.889 --> 00:42:45.699 a piece of the team and he would become the new president of baseball operations. 801 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:49.239 And on October 14th of 2022 802 00:42:50.429 --> 00:42:55.120 and there's like 60% more people listening today than were. Then 803 00:42:56.270 --> 00:42:57.820 I said Theo Epstein 804 00:42:58.229 --> 00:42:59.439 will be Met's president. 805 00:43:00.129 --> 00:43:00.979 Guess what? 806 00:43:01.860 --> 00:43:02.750 I was wrong. 807 00:43:03.260 --> 00:43:04.129 That's a, no, 808 00:43:04.379 --> 00:43:06.739 the president is David Stearns. 809 00:43:06.889 --> 00:43:07.760 So what does that mean? 810 00:43:07.770 --> 00:43:11.070 His first great big decision is when he sat down with Steve 811 00:43:11.080 --> 00:43:14.340 Cohen negotiated his contract and looked for an apartment in the city, 812 00:43:14.610 --> 00:43:17.459 got ready for that great commute over the Triborough Bridge. 813 00:43:18.520 --> 00:43:22.310 I guess you could take the 59th Street bridge too. Maybe even the midtown tunnel. 814 00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:24.250 If you're feeling a little groovy, 815 00:43:25.469 --> 00:43:27.399 I wonder if they talked about Buck Showalter. 816 00:43:28.550 --> 00:43:32.350 One thing owners do when they're hiring a new GM or president. They like to say 817 00:43:32.620 --> 00:43:35.280 the manager is your manager or they say 818 00:43:35.629 --> 00:43:38.179 the manager could be your manager. It's up to you 819 00:43:38.689 --> 00:43:42.159 though. The latter happens far less frequently than the former 820 00:43:44.000 --> 00:43:45.129 Buck Showalter 821 00:43:45.530 --> 00:43:48.550 said he has not had any conversations about his future 822 00:43:48.770 --> 00:43:49.689 with Epler. 823 00:43:49.969 --> 00:43:53.149 Well, of course not because Eppler is not authorized to speak on behalf of anybody 824 00:43:53.340 --> 00:43:54.639 or Steve Cohen. 825 00:43:54.659 --> 00:43:59.080 Of course not because Steve Cohn wants you the fan to believe that he is 826 00:43:59.090 --> 00:44:02.879 gonna to be hands off and David Sterns is gonna be in charge of everything. 827 00:44:03.060 --> 00:44:05.149 He'll check in once in a while with Stevie, 828 00:44:05.520 --> 00:44:08.750 let him know things are happening. So Steve doesn't have to read about things 829 00:44:09.149 --> 00:44:11.409 that are in the paper or on the back page. 830 00:44:12.469 --> 00:44:14.669 David will get used to the fact that New York 831 00:44:14.679 --> 00:44:18.209 media is slightly different than the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. 832 00:44:18.219 --> 00:44:22.300 Just a teeny tiny bit of more pressure in New York than in Milwaukee 833 00:44:23.310 --> 00:44:25.000 my two favorite cities in the US. 834 00:44:26.399 --> 00:44:29.689 But of course, Coe is gonna have Stern's deal with Show Walter 835 00:44:30.080 --> 00:44:31.850 because if it goes wrong, 836 00:44:33.040 --> 00:44:34.020 then it's 837 00:44:34.209 --> 00:44:34.330 CNS 838 00:44:35.310 --> 00:44:38.560 or Stearns can say, hey, that wasn't my guy that was Epler. 839 00:44:39.989 --> 00:44:41.939 But remember all the front office firings that took 840 00:44:41.949 --> 00:44:44.120 place about a month ago with the Mets, 841 00:44:44.659 --> 00:44:47.639 do you think for one minute that Billy Eppler did that? 842 00:44:48.370 --> 00:44:50.340 It was David Sterns. Of course, 843 00:44:50.879 --> 00:44:53.439 this deal didn't come together in the last three days. 844 00:44:53.449 --> 00:44:56.879 This deal didn't come together after Sterns was allowed to speak 845 00:44:56.889 --> 00:45:00.280 to Steve Conan was no longer held by the Brewers. 846 00:45:01.149 --> 00:45:03.860 That is a level of horse hockey 847 00:45:04.350 --> 00:45:05.840 that you don't often see, 848 00:45:07.620 --> 00:45:08.870 I wanna say that better. 849 00:45:10.020 --> 00:45:10.929 269, 850 00:45:11.520 --> 00:45:13.989 that is a level of horse hockey 851 00:45:14.310 --> 00:45:16.070 that we always see 852 00:45:16.699 --> 00:45:18.520 that level of tampering 853 00:45:18.889 --> 00:45:23.310 when front office moves are made. Oh, it wasn't me. I wasn't a part of the team. 854 00:45:23.320 --> 00:45:24.629 Of course, you were. 855 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:29.330 This deal with David Stern has been in the works for months, not days, not weeks. 856 00:45:30.550 --> 00:45:32.389 What does it mean for the Mets fans? 857 00:45:33.340 --> 00:45:35.750 I'll let you know when I see their payroll next year. 858 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:39.080 In the meantime, they still have to play the diamond backs. 859 00:45:39.750 --> 00:45:44.280 Diamondbacks are in that wild card hunt. One of five teams looking for three spots. 860 00:45:44.899 --> 00:45:49.189 They've got Zach Gallen going against the Mets. Those young Mets are fun to watch. 861 00:45:49.689 --> 00:45:51.189 We're taking the Diamondbacks. 862 00:45:51.649 --> 00:45:54.719 Congratulations Mets fans. Welcome to my fate. 863 00:45:55.179 --> 00:45:56.270 We'll see you tomorrow. 864 00:45:56.860 --> 00:45:58.189 It's just business. 865 00:45:58.620 --> 00:46:00.629 This is nothing personal.