Welcome to the End of Civilization, with Katie Nolan and Michael Cruz Kayne

Civilization had a pretty good run. Will the astronauts be the last ones living? Will Jordon Hudson sue Pablo Torre and/or beat him in a foot race? Could Sam Altman be bigger than Madoff and/or complete our curse on A.I.? And is your fiancé in the Epstein files? WHO KNOWS? But we f’d around and took your questions, live. So, come with us if you want to live. So mote it be.

Further content…

• Vote for PTFO at The Webby Awards:

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• Watch Michael Cruz Kayne’s special, "Sorry for Your Loss" — now streaming on Dropout TV: https://watch.dropout.tv/videos/michael-cruz-kayne-sorry-for-your-loss

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